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Yes I agree with Dave about the final one working well, but my favorite by far of the unused designs was the one where the Predator mouth things opened up to the skull? Yeah that was crazy. It would not have worked that well on screen (at least I do not think so), but it looked awesome as hell.

Some very interesting and horrific designs. I didn't mind the end products overall look, I think what let it down was it's very puppet like movement. I love the innocent child like properties.

What I think would have been truly horrific though is for the New Born to somehow resemble Ripley, at least in its facial structure. The birthing scene could have turned the tables on the Queen, with its hybridised chest burster having a human face, re visiting the first chest burster scene in Alien and ultimately killing the Queen simply by being born. I hate the way the New Born Killed the Queen. Looked silly and made the Queen seem very weak.

Thanks for that! Very cool.

I loved the Newborn. Thought it was a fantastic design. Didn't know Alien fans disliked the design, until I got on the internet! 

I'd like to see a character design contest on Scified, Not just a cut and paste xenomorph design, something horrific, alien and new.

Interesting Designs... i think the final one we had in the movie worked though... just the Plot was not done correct...

But i do like designs 0:51, 2:02, 2:23, 2:50  and 2:58 Mind you from 3:10 onwards are also good

0:24 Looks similar to the Prometheus Fresco Creature
0:43 Looks similar to the Prometheus Deacon
1:04 I like the look of
1:56 Looks good also
2:12 Likewise
2:32 Is by far the best within context of the Plot i.e Hybrid
2:50 Is what we got lol
3:18 Similar

And well pretty much same as Prometheus and Alien 3 the unused concepts looked way better and more fitting to the Plot than the ones we actually ended up with.

seems a lot of movies in the Franchise borrow elements from previous movies drafts or concept that was never used... this happens often.  When i say Franchise i also mean include Star Beast.

So maybe the 0:24 and 0:43 inspired the designs of the Deacon and Fresco Creature in Prometheus?

Yep Definately a Hot Toy ;)

One Book to add to my collection then ;)

Cant wait to see this

This is interesting news it would be interesting to see there take on the Engineers and how they would use them as the Fire and Stone Comics like the Prometheus  movie barely scratched the surface.

I'd love to see Kotal Kahn's first fatality (be mine) on the xenomorph.His face would melt because of acid blood.

I've been wanting this since mkx announced Predator!

I hope the alien doesn't look dumb like the avp movies, but if he make the alien a drone from the first alien movie, then its all good I cant what!

A Xenomorph Kamui. What do you know?

@King Kaiju Gojira

That's the big question isn't it!  I like these morphed versions especially the bat and the StarShip Bug.

These need to happen. They are horrifying. But that leaves to question. If the Xenomorph born from humans is a variations, waht does the original Xenomorph look like?

You should probably mention that it is a game on Facebook, which not everyone is a part of.

Very Interesting but where does this Plot, leave Alien 5 and potentially Alien: Paradise Lost as i think a lot of themes could be explored in both those movies that this Comic seems to be pushing for

@ Big Dave, the article you are discussing was posted by myself, but the speculation was much more simplified...

Ripley clone 7 was deformed, as would have been the Queen chestburster that was removed from her. So an 8th clone is comissioned, that is not deformed. The Queen we saw in AR started off as normal but the deformity in its DNA manifested when it developed a womb and gave birth to the newborn - thus imo the Queen we saw in the film was from the deformed 7th clone of Ripley.

Let me put this another way. Ripley 8 was, lets say, 95% Human and 5% Xenomorph, whereas the deformed Ripley 7 was more like 70% human, 30% Xenomorph. The Queen in AR, having developed a womb would seemingly be 70% Xenomorph and 30% human.

Thus I imagine, because lets face the crew of the Auriga were idiots, The Auriga was given the Queen from Ripley 7, while their superiors watched and learnt from the Aurigas failures before attempting to harvest eggs from the Queen taken from Ripley 8, which would be 95% Xenomorph and 5% human, which could manifest itself in terms of intellgence.

Indeed oduodu if they cloned Ripley 8 again or found out why she gained those traits the company could make a Super Soldier as lets Face it the Xeno is not exactly the best if you want control and command over them.

Which puzzled me why they wanted the Xeno for that reason, the Engineers Tech is of better use... A Ripley 8 has Strength, Speed she is as Strong as a Android... She heals Wounds and has Acid for Blood. We dont know about Life Expectancy but that does not matter for a Weapon, and Ripley 8 can hold a Pulse Riffle or any other Weapon and is thus a Better Weapon as far as a soldier than a Xeno or even a Android....

Her freewill would be a problem but then so can Androids if their programming gets messed up. The Xeno is just a Weapon of Destruction its basically just like a Chemical Weapon or a Nuke! Effective but has its drawbacks.

Dave

Yes ripley 8 was probably
what probably what a 
Supersoldier looked like
With xeno traits. The ability
To sense danger before it
Happens strong heals 
Quickly iet.

Never explored or expanded
On.

Yes i like that idea...  New Hybrid Queen Lays Eggs smaller than the ones in Alien and a bit different... these Eggs either hatch out or evolve into a Organism that is Worm like, like a Fatter Hammerpede different head, this is like stage Tadpole in a Frog Life Cycle... this grows into a smaller Organism with Arms and Legs and Tail and finally the Adult one loses its Tail to give us something like a cross between our Engineers Pressure Suit (not Space Jockey suit) and the Concept Designs of the Alien Resurection Xenos, with a head that is more like the other Babyhead and Fifield concepts from Prometheus... 

It has a set of large teeth like the Ripley 5 Clone and it does not have the inner protrusible jaws like the Deacon and Xenos.. or a Tail like the Xenos..

As far as Procreation i think we may need to be a bit inventive and also maybe shocking

We see Ripley 8 Looked Totally like Ripley yet had Xeno Traits, greater speed and strength and Acid Blood, and that the Queen they got from Ripley 8 looked a just like a Xeno Queen but it later developed a Womb like a Human.

This Queen then gave birth to the New Born that had a lot of Human DNA....

I propose that the Ripley 7 Queen is more Human than the Queen from 8 and indeed what if it appeared to look like the New Born but a more better job i.e had same body well similar but head is different...

This Organism is dismissed as its a failed Queen, and Actually starts its life looking as a Baby and like a cross between Ripley 3 and the New Born, it is taken away to a different place to be tested on as far as DNA...

We could see DNA experiments able to clone from it a Xeno/Human Hybrid that could be similar to the Deacon at the end of Prometheus but different a little.

While the Queen 7 then grows into a Adult that resembles the New Born body with a Tail but it also is slightly different to the New Born as far as that head lol

While Ripley 8 Queen grew a Womb and gave birth to the New Born and thus had less Xeno DNA than that Queen...

Our Ripley 7 Queen actually procreates like Queen from Aliens in that it lays Eggs and these can be different, but then these Eggs give rise to either new kind of Face Huger that leads to a new kind of Xeno, or they just evolve into a Organism that grows into a new type of Xeno

Either way our new Xeno Creature will actually look like Ripley 5 clone which if you look in detail some of it looks just like the Prometheus Engineers pressure Suit, while its back has a design similar to some of the concept work for some of the Monsters for Prometheus which included based on Spaights draft and also some other Deacon signs... while Ripley 5 clones head is similar to some of the unused Prometheus concept work.

So we get either via New kind of Egg = New Face Huger = New Organism or the Egg evolves to a new Organism in stages maybe like a Frog Life Span..

The end product is a Creature with a very Streamlined look that the Engineers Pressure suit had with limbs that was similar to Alien Resurrections Xenos, and Head that was not quite like the various Xenos we have seen but more like some of the Prometheus unused Fifield concepts.... a New creature that we then invent a new way to Procreate.

Does it somehow Rape and implant embryos into a Host, does it infect and Morph them into Eggs or as thats been done, it simply infects its DNA and they mutate into some other new kind of creature that carries this NEW Xeno DNA and its Hosts.

I think these are some pretty good new ideas, that creates something different, something connected to the Xeno yet not and a way to show us procreation that could be more Horrific than the Original Xenos.

Yes i have a idea.... but what gave me this idea is actually a Topic that was posted on Scified

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Option 3: The Other Queen

Where the poster made note of how Ripley 7 Clone had a Scar in her Chest like Ripley  8 after removal of the Queen.... so there is Two Queens!

Why would they proceed with Ripley 8 if a failed Ripley 7 Clone Yielded a Queen?

I propose a idea.... Ripley 7 was not a complete Ripley Clone, not as in like Ripley 8 who was a Ripley Clone with some Xeno Traits.... Ripley 7 was a failed experiment but one that they did take something out of her Chest!

Did this prove to be a failure?  We see that Ripley 7 was alive but she was deformed and not perfect.... maybe the Organism Cut out of her was also not quite a Perfect Queen but that does not mean that it could not be a Organism that could be explored or used to try and re-engineer to try and produce a Perfect Queen but instead produces something slightly different?

That was sent to another installation for Study before the The Betty docked with the USM Auriga

This could be a starting point to base something off

For those who has no actual game, there it is:
https://yadi.sk/d/hXfcyNrV9fms9

And also you have to instal mappack UMP2 above it:
https://disk.yandex.ru/public/?hash=C4T7vUx0FG%2BlLRUIxBzlEuK3c//ToTeB%2BmxHbULOn7I%3D

Sounds cool, we'll see if we can work on the idea if ur interested of course, PM me for more details.

I did work on a Prometheus 2 idea but it was the whole Ancient Alien and creators link and how to do that justice that i found hard to cover...

A straight forwards Xeno movie idea would not be hard, the only hard part is comming up with some Original ideas.... my ideas for Prometheus 2 as far as LV 223 was pretty much easy to work with.

Big patch on it's way.

More alien classes, more gameplay features and some minor bugfixes.

New graphic features included.

Stay with us. ;)

Both very good movies and each in its own rights.... I actually prefered Predator but only just.. so close...

As far as Sequels go i prefered Aliens to Predator 2 by a long shot.... but prefered Predators compared to Alien 3 and Alien Resurection.

I really prefer Alien but I think that Predator was really well done too ... I think it's just more of a preference of type of movies ... Alien was more of a scifi thriller/ horror where as Predator had a much more action movie vibe ... but that's just my opinion

Yes! I would LOVE to see Riddick in a shared universe with both the Aliens and Predators. The reasons the 2 films suck is because they both take place on Earth. They need to make a brand new (reboot) AVP film and have it on a different planet (like the Predators planet), and then have a bunch of Colonial Marines land on one of their (the Yautja's) hunting planets (LV426 or something) and then bring Riddick in along with the Marines (I don't know, just some plot device to get him there). This could open up a WHOLE UNIVERSE combining the Yautjas homeworld, the Underverse, the LV planetoids as well as other unknowns. Riddick has a totally kick ass universe to explore, but I'd LOVE to see him meet with these things as well. I say, make it happen. 

Is this a tv show? because if it is I would watch it.

Since I made this thread when this forum was basically on life support I figured I'd bump it now that it's more active to see if anyone has an opinion on this, if not it can fall back to the depths.

Aw, He's so adorable!

How skilled is the Predator, what kind of xeno, how many are there, where are they fighting? All of these need to have some type of base for us to come up with an answer. Some predators can wreck whole xeno hives and others get 1v1ed by drones. There are aliens that take multiple predators to fight. There are different weapons the Predator could have. 

It's all done to weapons. A fully armed Pred is capable of taking out hundreds of Xeno's. But one on one, no weapons, bye bye Predator.

I mean they're basically not even comparable. What are we grading them on? In terms of horror Alien wins, but for action Predator kills it. It's hard to compare movies that are different genres. 

I like Alien a lot, but I think I definitely have more fun watching Predator, the cast, action and story are much more fast paced and interesting, whereas Alien goes with the slow stylistic approach, is Predator a better movie? I can't really say, but since I'd say they were close I'd go with Predator simply because once again, it's more fun for me to watch.

Alien is a masterpice in all aspects of movie making. It broke new ground in script, photgraphy and practical effects. It is almost faultless. I do like the original Predator but Alien is in a totally different league of film making.

It's the Alien movies over the Predator movies for me.  However, the Predator culture is far more interesting to me than the Alien. It's weird how that works.  I like the Alien universe more, but I respect the Predator as a species more than I do the Alien.

Predators have culture & some sort of social system.  A Predator won't kill a pregnant MOTHER. They have rules, structure, honor. It becomes possible to establish common ground with them. The company realizes that Predators value the life of human offspring (mainly so the hunt can continue). Weyland-Yutani uses all the data to their advantage to make contact with some of them.

Aliens, on the other hand, kill indiscriminately: they have no respect for human MOTHERS!!  No true sense of honor, or thoughts about right and wrong.  That makes them difficult to deal with.

IMO the Alien is the Deadliest of the Species.  A number of virtual reality based holographic simulations were personally run by my counterpart in an attempt to determine who would win the war in the end. At the company they call this AVP.  In reality, the Aliens and Predators have never crossed paths on Earth...  Only the rebellious Predator clans hunt humans in the future of most timelines/universes after the treaty. For the most part, the android consciousness Ty and I have the Predators under control. The larger breed of Predator is, however, allied with the Engineers and the hunts/simulations have prepared them for an intergalactic war.

Well as for the movies, don't know because I haven't watched any of them in years.

But in terms of which one I like better, I can definitely say Alien.

@Svanya

So you don't hate the first AVP either? Huh.